The press Trend Micro is getting for its research on the hacking of sex toys reminds me of a podcast recording I did a couple years ago with Gillis Jones and others.

The articles currently making the rounds neglect to mention that this topic came up during the DEF CON 2014 Fail Panel.

If Don Weber and Larry Pesce — the hackers who brought this gem to the masses — have any doubts about their presentation making an impression, this snippet from Gillis should put you at ease. It’s from my podcast cutting-room floor, used with his permission. 

The segment is in no way connected to our day jobs. We spoke as friends in a room, not as company spokespeople. Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way…

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